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		<title>By: It&#8217;s All In The Presentation : Pursuing Excellence</title>
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		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s All In The Presentation : Pursuing Excellence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 03:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As Guy Kawaski pointed out there is a better explanation of why this appearance was so effective by Jay Zipursky. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://jay-photo.com/blog/2006/05/07/steve-jobs-master-manipulator/comment-page-1/#comment-7157</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 06:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes.  That&#039;s one of the examples from the book.  The Hare Krishnas used the same technique.  They even fished the flowers out of the garbage!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes.  That&#8217;s one of the examples from the book.  The Hare Krishnas used the same technique.  They even fished the flowers out of the garbage!</p>
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		<title>By: John Klippenstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Klippenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 00:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received an interesting innoculation against the reciprocity principle many years ago.  I was walking home from the bus stop when someone tried to give me a flower claiming that she was honouring &quot;Be nice to people day&quot;.  I was suspicious but what reason do you give for refusing a gift.  But, as soon as I&#039;d taken the flower she asked for a donation, ostensibly to help poor people.  Now, I knew nothing about her charity so I volunteered to write a cheque to my favourite charity as soon as I got home.   She wouldn&#039;t accept that and eventually asked for her flower back!!  

This experience made me very aware of how strong the reciprocity principle is AND that people can very cynically take advantage of it.  Consequently I&#039;m much more able to resist it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received an interesting innoculation against the reciprocity principle many years ago.  I was walking home from the bus stop when someone tried to give me a flower claiming that she was honouring &#8220;Be nice to people day&#8221;.  I was suspicious but what reason do you give for refusing a gift.  But, as soon as I&#8217;d taken the flower she asked for a donation, ostensibly to help poor people.  Now, I knew nothing about her charity so I volunteered to write a cheque to my favourite charity as soon as I got home.   She wouldn&#8217;t accept that and eventually asked for her flower back!!  </p>
<p>This experience made me very aware of how strong the reciprocity principle is AND that people can very cynically take advantage of it.  Consequently I&#8217;m much more able to resist it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://jay-photo.com/blog/2006/05/07/steve-jobs-master-manipulator/comment-page-1/#comment-3453</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 05:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It absolutely was intentional.  I thought that was the whole point of my post. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It absolutely was intentional.  I thought that was the whole point of my post. <img src='http://jay-photo.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Hopkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 16:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Jobs didn’t ask for anything, but the council gave him a lot.

Jay, don&#039;t you think this was intentional?  If Jobs would have asked for something, anything, the council immediately would have wanted to privately discuss the issue.  This way, they were able to give him, and Apple, praise because he didn&#039;t ask for anything.

Sometimes you get more when you want less.

Brandon Hopkins</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Jobs didn’t ask for anything, but the council gave him a lot.</p>
<p>Jay, don&#8217;t you think this was intentional?  If Jobs would have asked for something, anything, the council immediately would have wanted to privately discuss the issue.  This way, they were able to give him, and Apple, praise because he didn&#8217;t ask for anything.</p>
<p>Sometimes you get more when you want less.</p>
<p>Brandon Hopkins</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 06:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Les: Interesting.  &quot;Authority&quot; is one of the influence principles Cialdini cites in his book, so he made the right move. :)  Maybe he&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://homepage.mac.com/lesposen/blogwavestudio/LH20040807225237/LHA20060422204527/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;made the move to Keynote&lt;/a&gt; by now.  That article was written in 2001 so I wonder if PowerPoint would still have that effect.

Here&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~wilkins/group/powerpt.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link to the Ian Parker article&lt;/a&gt; for anyone interested.

John: I agree it&#039;s a bit of a stretch to read too much into the &quot;Job&quot; thing.  However, the influence strategies are real and if you are aware of them you&#039;ll be better off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Les: Interesting.  &#8220;Authority&#8221; is one of the influence principles Cialdini cites in his book, so he made the right move. <img src='http://jay-photo.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Maybe he&#8217;s <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/lesposen/blogwavestudio/LH20040807225237/LHA20060422204527/index.html" rel="nofollow">made the move to Keynote</a> by now.  That article was written in 2001 so I wonder if PowerPoint would still have that effect.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~wilkins/group/powerpt.html" rel="nofollow">link to the Ian Parker article</a> for anyone interested.</p>
<p>John: I agree it&#8217;s a bit of a stretch to read too much into the &#8220;Job&#8221; thing.  However, the influence strategies are real and if you are aware of them you&#8217;ll be better off.</p>
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		<title>By: John Guy B</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Guy B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 21:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The video was great - you guys analyze a lot into this. For example - asian americans don&#039;t always say the s on the end of words as loudly as native speakers - but so what really.  The Johns Hopkins University is nearby, I did postdoctoral work there and I cringe when people say John Hopkins. What about nuc-u-lur versus nuclear?  
But I am heavily influenced by what I actually have seen come out of Jobs initiatives too. I have an iMac and I have read iCon (which is a bit redundant - since the authors did not have enough material I think - but good information nonetheless). I too am a vegetarian and believe in many of the things Jobs says and stands for. I started out being pissed by his cocky nature about 24-25 years ago - but I have learned my error in that. He is a visionary guy - period.  I don&#039;t know that I&#039;d survive working close to him though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The video was great &#8211; you guys analyze a lot into this. For example &#8211; asian americans don&#8217;t always say the s on the end of words as loudly as native speakers &#8211; but so what really.  The Johns Hopkins University is nearby, I did postdoctoral work there and I cringe when people say John Hopkins. What about nuc-u-lur versus nuclear?<br />
But I am heavily influenced by what I actually have seen come out of Jobs initiatives too. I have an iMac and I have read iCon (which is a bit redundant &#8211; since the authors did not have enough material I think &#8211; but good information nonetheless). I too am a vegetarian and believe in many of the things Jobs says and stands for. I started out being pissed by his cocky nature about 24-25 years ago &#8211; but I have learned my error in that. He is a visionary guy &#8211; period.  I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;d survive working close to him though.</p>
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		<title>By: Les Posen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les Posen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 21:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a juxtaposition for you: Cialdini on Powerpoint entrapment From Ian Parker&#039;s article &quot;Absolute Powerpoint&quot;:

&quot;Last year, three researchers at Arizona State University, including Robert Cialdini, a professor of psychology and the author of &quot;Influence: Science and Practice,&quot; conducted an experiment in which they presented three groups of volunteers with information about Andrew, a fictional high-school student under consideration for a university football scholarship. One group was given Andrew&#039;s football statistics typed on a piece of paper. The second group was shown bar graphs. Those in the third group were given a PowerPoint presentation, in which animated bar graphs grew before their eyes.

Given Andrew&#039;s record, what kind of prospect was he? According to Cialdini, when Andrew was PowerPointed, viewers saw him as a greater potential asset to the football team. The first group rated Andrew four and a half on a scale of one to seven; the second rated him five; and the PowerPoint group rated him six. PowerPoint gave him power. The experiment was repeated, with three groups of sports fans that were accustomed to digesting sports statistics; this time, the first two groups gave Andrew the same rating. But the group that saw the PowerPoint presentation still couldn&#039;t resist it. Again, Andrew got a six. PowerPoint seems to be a way for organizations to turn expensive, expert decision-makers into novice decision-makers. &quot;It&#039;s frightening,&quot; Cialdini says. He always preferred to use slides when he spoke to business groups, but one high-tech company recently hinted that his authority suffered as a result. &quot;They said, &#039;You know what, Bob? You&#039;ve got to get into PowerPoint, otherwise people aren&#039;t going to respond.&#039; So I made the transfer.&quot;

Sad, but apparently true. The Master Influencer influenced. By Powerpoint. Yeech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a juxtaposition for you: Cialdini on Powerpoint entrapment From Ian Parker&#8217;s article &#8220;Absolute Powerpoint&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;Last year, three researchers at Arizona State University, including Robert Cialdini, a professor of psychology and the author of &#8220;Influence: Science and Practice,&#8221; conducted an experiment in which they presented three groups of volunteers with information about Andrew, a fictional high-school student under consideration for a university football scholarship. One group was given Andrew&#8217;s football statistics typed on a piece of paper. The second group was shown bar graphs. Those in the third group were given a PowerPoint presentation, in which animated bar graphs grew before their eyes.</p>
<p>Given Andrew&#8217;s record, what kind of prospect was he? According to Cialdini, when Andrew was PowerPointed, viewers saw him as a greater potential asset to the football team. The first group rated Andrew four and a half on a scale of one to seven; the second rated him five; and the PowerPoint group rated him six. PowerPoint gave him power. The experiment was repeated, with three groups of sports fans that were accustomed to digesting sports statistics; this time, the first two groups gave Andrew the same rating. But the group that saw the PowerPoint presentation still couldn&#8217;t resist it. Again, Andrew got a six. PowerPoint seems to be a way for organizations to turn expensive, expert decision-makers into novice decision-makers. &#8220;It&#8217;s frightening,&#8221; Cialdini says. He always preferred to use slides when he spoke to business groups, but one high-tech company recently hinted that his authority suffered as a result. &#8220;They said, &#8216;You know what, Bob? You&#8217;ve got to get into PowerPoint, otherwise people aren&#8217;t going to respond.&#8217; So I made the transfer.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sad, but apparently true. The Master Influencer influenced. By Powerpoint. Yeech.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 04:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah -- I haven&#039;t read iCon.  The reviews on Amazon are definitely mixed (although I hate people that write reviews admitting they haven&#039;t read the book!).  I&#039;ll add it to my reading list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah &#8212; I haven&#8217;t read iCon.  The reviews on Amazon are definitely mixed (although I hate people that write reviews admitting they haven&#8217;t read the book!).  I&#8217;ll add it to my reading list.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 04:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BD: I didn&#039;t pick up on the &quot;Mr. Job&quot; thing.  Very amusing.

Nomad: He&#039;s definitely thinking long term like you say.  I am only trying to point out the techniques he&#039;s using (as I understand them).  I only point out two, but you also point out other influencing techniques which are also quite effective.

The Godfather quote is indeed reciprocity, but it&#039;s explicit.  Cialdini&#039;s book points out that there are internal drives (learned early as we are socialized) that cause you to reciprocate even if it&#039;s not explicitly asked of you.  And if you&#039;re not aware of them, you&#039;ll respond automatically.  Quick example from the book -- a psychology experiment showed that people were more likely to buy raffle tickets from a stranger who bought them a Coke earlier on (even people who didn&#039;t like him).  There are also more subtle examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BD: I didn&#8217;t pick up on the &#8220;Mr. Job&#8221; thing.  Very amusing.</p>
<p>Nomad: He&#8217;s definitely thinking long term like you say.  I am only trying to point out the techniques he&#8217;s using (as I understand them).  I only point out two, but you also point out other influencing techniques which are also quite effective.</p>
<p>The Godfather quote is indeed reciprocity, but it&#8217;s explicit.  Cialdini&#8217;s book points out that there are internal drives (learned early as we are socialized) that cause you to reciprocate even if it&#8217;s not explicitly asked of you.  And if you&#8217;re not aware of them, you&#8217;ll respond automatically.  Quick example from the book &#8212; a psychology experiment showed that people were more likely to buy raffle tickets from a stranger who bought them a Coke earlier on (even people who didn&#8217;t like him).  There are also more subtle examples.</p>
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